Bahamas, March 2016 - Bentinho Massaro Interviewed by Cory Katuna.
Part 6: The Fear of Not Being Safe
Cory: A few weeks ago with the team at Jo’s house, there was this feeling we all noticed that was very sweet. It felt like borderline “telepathy” and that we are all operating as one. I remember you said, “Isn’t it interesting that the issue we are still kind of working on is safety?” When did you get over that? When did safety stop becoming a factor for you?
Bentinho: I’m not sure when I stopped caring in that way. I think it’s a natural result of being so grounded in your own energy, so grounded in the field, and so grounded in a more expanded, sensitive awareness identity, that one’s chakras—those intersections of energy—no longer flare up when there’s a situation you have defined in your past as being “dangerous” and therefore, you need to protect yourself.
It’s interesting to notice that even in a group where the focal-point or goal of the group, or the intention that makes that group thrive, is 4th Density living—which is connected, telepathic, free from concerns and worries and fears, connecting as One Being—even in those amplified moments of connection, the thing that still prevents that from being the case all the time is that we are still in our own bubbles of, “How do I come across to the group?” or “How is this going to sound?” and so on.
I don’t know how I stopped caring about that stuff. You just have to shift your vibration, shift your awareness, expand, don’t identify with the part of yourself that feels afraid, which is the body. It’s the body focus that makes us feel so at stake. When you gain the feeling state of the I-AM, of presence and awareness, and even the Infinity beyond and including all of that, it becomes harder and harder to hold on to the “I am separate” point of view. It can still flare up, but you notice it and it’s very easy to unfold it, to unwind it. When you have sufficient experience of your True Self, there is naturally no fear of others because, are we not One? There is no separation.
Cory: What is required to fully resolve the fear of not being safe?
Bentinho: Awareness. Not really time or practice so much—a little bit of practice maybe, a little bit of time—but mostly awareness. Awareness of the fact that this fear is still happening for the self, and awareness of the ridiculousness, non-necessity, and redundancy of it. That cuts through a lot of time and practice. You only need practice if you aren’t really aware of the paradigm you have previously practiced. You don’t really have practice your new paradigm so much when you realize your old paradigm is redundant. Awareness is key.
Prioritization, having your priorities straight, is important. Notice what you’re doing and see that it doesn’t make sense. The intellect is very capable of guiding this whole journey, in a way. The intellect is what becomes intuitive. Intuition and intellect are really the same mental body. If you were to simply be very clear in your thinking, in your analyzing, you could achieve a very profound state of freedom and enlightenment. Because when you are very, very logical you can see when something doesn't make sense. When you see that you’ve been practicing an egoic response, or a fear response, and you clearly see that it’s not necessary, then you stop doing it. It’s a very logical progress.
Awareness is required for any change. That’s it, really. Awareness of what’s happening and then prioritizing—becoming more logical.
Cory: It’s easy for you, it seems, to define what’s happening and then move onto a new definition.
Bentinho: It takes practice, I guess. I’ve had a lot of practice.
Cory: It feels like the creative part of all of this. It’s like …
Bentinho: Are you referring to having this whole field of information, and then being able to pick out what is most relevant, what the obstacle is, what the solution to the obstacle is, and what the new paradigm is—the most relevant and important thing?
Cory: Sort of. It’s like when you’re teaching and you can explain exactly what just happened for someone, like, “This was a peak and this was a valley,” or whatever. You have this really concise, feel-good way to interpret everything, and I think that’s one of the reasons you are such a relief for so many people. They can’t come up with those definitions on their own, or at least it’s a lot harder. So, because you have the story about what just happened…
Bentinho: Nice. I like that perception. And I agree, it takes practice. It requires developing a larger “dictionary” with more definitions at your disposal for any given moment—more perspectives of the scenario. You need to be able to see each scenario from multiple angles. If you train yourself to do this, it becomes easier to more quickly respond to a scenario from different angles and choose the angle that combines the most balanced approach. But you can’t really do that when you’re coming from a very biased point of view.
That’s why I say Shepherding Consciousness is kind of up there, in terms of evolution of human consciousness—because it requires practice in becoming unbiased and seeing a scenario, not from your own point of view, but from all points of view. And then transcending all points of view, which includes all of the balances and imbalances of all of the lower points of view, so that the actual point of view that is being executed and chosen in that moment is the most balanced one you can think of.
That responsiveness happens faster and faster, but your Higher Mind will throw more complex situations at you in order for you to get better and better at it. It’s like a puzzler moving through different creations of puzzles—you get bigger and bigger puzzles to solve, and the better you become at it, the more you are allowed to serve humanity at a larger and grander scale. Ideally, our politicians would have this capacity. Our leaders, those whom we look up to, would have these types of skills and would be well trained. In different civilizations, and in certain cultures on our own planet, this tends to happen. The leader is chosen naturally; the leader is the one who is the most balanced and fair in his or her responses and choices.
Maybe we should create a course for politicians! Or just… fuck ‘em, you know, bypass all of the systems. We just start leading from the ground up—that’s actually more exciting (smiles).